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ly 70 years ago. christianity teaches us forgiveness, and second chances. i'm not saying i'll be perfect, that nobody who received clemency will ever do nothing wrong. i'm not infallible and nobody else is, but i am very comfortable and totally at peace with these pardons. >> jennifer: that's former mississippi governor haley barbour, defending his con
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trover shall decision to hand down 200 pardons. i too am a strong believer in second chances, and when i was governor of michigan i issued orders for nearly 200 which is the state record. toni bunton is one of the people i felt deserved a second chance. she spent more than 16 years behind bars for her part in a drug deal that ended in murder but in 2009 after a lot of deliberation i decided to free toni from her 25 to 50-year sentence. and tonight toni is joining us from detroit. toni welcome inside "the war room." >> thank you for inviting me. >> jennifer: so tell us what have you been doing since your sentence was commuted? >> i graduated from the
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university of michigan with a master's degree in women's studies. i work for a nonprofit organization in detroit that provides after-school programs for girls, and ged classes for woman, and i work as a community organizer in southwest detroit, and i plan to go to law school. >> jennifer: all right. so no incidents, nothing has hand that would cause me to regret the decision right? >> absolutely not. >> jennifer: okay. so tell people -- i don't think people can imagine what it was like to spending 16 years in prison and then one day be free. >> it was like living in hell and then walking into heaven. every day i'm so grateful to have an opportunity to live as a free person and to pursue my
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career and to be with my family and friends, and i'm just so grateful every day. >> jennifer: and you are i hear a young mother as well. >> i am. i had a child a little girl and i want you to know governor granholm, when you look at her picture, i want you to know that her life would not have been possible, had you not given me a second chance. >> jennifer: now you are going to make me cry. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: so did you ever imagine that you would receive a commutation one day? >> i had always had belief -- i have a strong spiritual belief and faith, so i had always believed that i would walk out of prison, but i knew that there was a possibility that i would die there, like so many other
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women that i had served time with. i knew there was possibility that it could be a long time before i got out decades. so, yes, i couldn't believe when it -- it had finally happened. >> jennifer: do you -- do you think that your -- that any of fellow inmates deserved to have their sentences commuted as well? would you feel like there were some in there who's sentences were commuted that you wouldn't be putting a risk into the community? >> there are wonderful women in prison. they made a mistake, and they -- many of them are just like me, and they have very compelling stories, and reasons why they deserve a second chance. they just haven't had their case
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reviewed yet, and so yes is the answer to your question. there are many many women that i left in prison that deserve a second chance. >> jennifer: mississippi governor haley barbour actually got a lot of flak for his pardons. tell the folks watching why second chances are so not just for the person but for the community as well. >> i believe second chances are very important because a politician, a governor who puts their political career in jeopardy to give a second chance to a human being who probably never had a chance in life that person, that politician is putting humanity before politics, and that person has a
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place in heaven waiting for them, and what it does is it says to the community that we are forgiving people and that we -- we will not stand for locking up everyone indefinitely and overincarcerating, and what it also does is it stands for >> jennifer: so having been in prison for 16 years, which i know was like hell, as you have described, was there anything positive that you took away from those years? >> yes, the relationships that i formed with many of the women that i left behind. many of the women were battered women. many of them weren't the actual perpetrators in their crimes, but most of them have spent decades behind bars.
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they don't have a voice. people don't know their stories and those women -- they helped me become who i am today, and also my education, that -- that i got in prison and my love for books. those things i take away as good aspects from prison importantly those women they met who are like family to me and really deserve a second chance. >> jennifer: well, toni, you obviously are a great example of what can happen if somebody who has the power to commute can take a risk. you are a tax-paying citizen. you are contributing and giving back, and, you know, maybe there's a lesson there for others who are contemplating just for everybody who is watching as i mentioned i commuted almost 200 sentences,
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only one person of those 2 00 has recidivated, and that was some guy stealing a pig trough in a barn, and all of the rest are out there, and working, and trying -- trying to live, and it's much better than paying $35,000 a year keeping them in prison. joining us in "the war room." up next we have seen how individuals can pick up the pieces in the face of tragedy and loss.
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we have a big, big hour and the i.q. will go way up. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low
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they won't go to. oh, no. if al gore's watching today... ♪ >> jennifer: now i know detroit really well, as obviously the former governor of michigan i know it's the poster child of the de-industrialization of america, but i know the city more deeply than that. my husband and i were married in detroit. we lived and worked in detroit. our first home was in detroit. our oldest children were born in detroit. i have seen and lived and held its good and its bad, and there are lots of both. and you have no doubt heard lots about the bad, but you haven't heard, i'm sure of it the love story. there are lots of us who love
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detroit bruises and all, and today there's are signs of life green shoots rising up a phoenix rising from the ashes. joining me now from detroit is mark binelli, author of a terrific new book "detroit city is the place to be." mark, thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room." >> thanks so much for having me. >> jennifer: you bet. i thoroughly enjoyed for those of you who aren't so familiar with detroit, let me start with the obvious, how has the auto industry's come back played a role in the city's rebirth? >> that's where the book started. it was originally a story for the rolling stone, which i went back to cover the auto industry in 2009 which as you know was a
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very dire time. the city had become sort of the poster child of the recession, and really for three days after i arrived in detroit, i remember sitting in a dive bar in downtown detroit watching president obama's inauguration. the book really became a snapshot of his first term as president seen from ground zero of the recession and i think coming off of this last rightfully took credit for the bailout and i think that like the bank bailout, it's -- it was a shifting a lot of taxpayer money to these huge multinational corporations, and maybe not enough of the upside trickled down to regular people. >> jennifer: well, your book is a -- it's a candid love story, really. you don't hold back the raw
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truths, but you recognize that detroit is like a phoenix project. what have you seen that should give people hope? >> well, one thing is the economy is finally starting to diversify. i think that has been a positive thing about the auto industry being on the ropes. the city and the state as a whole doesn't seem to be putting all of its shifts solely on the auto industry as it happens did in the past and i write quite a bit about the bottom-up energy that is happening in the city. and i write about the do it yourself city like detroit. the government really isn't functioning properly, but it does give people the sort of space to do things like plant urban gardens or just start
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their sort of own entrepreneurial operations without much getting in the way, because as i said there's not -- >> jennifer: there's a lot of land. right. detroit was a city that was built for 2 million people but now only about 700,000 live there. and people are using some of that vacant land for -- for example, urban farming. how successful has that been? >> it is doing good. it is sort of a metaphor these green shoots coming from the industrialists of our society. but it's obviously a deficit that the city has 40-some miles of vacant land that's paris, and turning that into a positive thing. just this week the city council is supposed to be voting on a
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project by a local businessman who wants to buy something like 1400 acres of vacant city land and plant a huge tree farm. so that's thinking outside of the box i find very exciting. >> jennifer: i do too. the major had an unusual plan which was to move citizens from vacant more dispersed areas, he rolled that out, but how is that working? >> it has been slow coming. there are so many great ideas put forth for the future of detroit, if you look at the renders of what detroit could look like it's really exciting but as you well know there is just no money for a lot of these projects, so something like detroit works, the right-sizing plan that you just mentioned a lot of that is being funded by outside organizations,
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nonprofits. the city itself though, is basically on the verge of bankruptcy. 40% of the streetlights don't work. there aren't enough police and firefighters, half of the schools have closed, but the big problem is money. >> yeah, well -- and the big problem is money, but many -- and we're watching some programs right now. a lot of pictures have been taken of so-called ruined porn in detroit, but as one detroiter put it in your is not some abstract art project. how would you like people outside of detroit to view the city? >> that was really one of the reasons why i decided to write this book. nationally and internationally people were coming to detroit -- reporters, particularly, to take photos of
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these ruined factories, kind of in a gawking pruient sort of way. i feel like that has shifted over the course of my reporting. and now like you saw with the popularity of the chrysler ads during the super bowl people really want detroit to succeed. so i think -- i feel like that's -- that's been a me -- movement, but also great one. >> jennifer: i totally agree with you. i think detroit is unique, and i would expect that you would think, especially with the writing in your book, that there is a model there, and a hope there of rebirth and
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renaissance, and maybe for other places. do you agree? >> oh i think so. detroit has been held up so long as the worst place in the country. if they can make it work scranton new york, or stockton california, any of those places can make it work. so it is exciting thinking outside of the box. >> jennifer: mark you are a crisp and really interesting writer. i found the book to be fascinating. thanks for joining us inside "the war room." and after the break, it's my turn to give thanks. alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first
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bruising, bleeding, or paleness. [ phil ] get back to the things that matter most. ask your rheumatologist if enbrel is right for you. [ doctor ] enbrel, the number one biologic medicine prescribed by rheumatologists. jennifer speaks truth to power. >>the bottom line is we need an amendment. >>now it's your turn. connect with "the war room" jennifer granholm. >>it's a call to arms. make your voice heard. ♪ >> jennifer: now to my point, my giving thanks on for many things this year, but especially this past month. i'm thankful for the people of this country who voted with their hearts for the reelection of president obama and the record number of female senator.
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i'm grateful for the strong consensus that we ought as a nation to invest in ourselves and our infrastructure and our people, and our human capital, i'm grateful that we will find solutions to fix a warming planet. i'm grateful for the faith communities that volunteer to feed the poor in soup kich ens. i'm grateful for soldiers who serve us in lands far away from home. i'm grateful for second chances, for forgiveness. i'm grateful for a ceasefire in israel and gaza. i'm grateful that human beings have the capacity for hearts can soften that bruised egos can be soothed, and bruced people can be healed. that a renaissance city can be
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reborn. i'm really thankful for a dinner where the turkey skin is golden brown encasing the juices from a tender bird basted with butter and garlic salt and of course i'm also grateful to be able to share that dinner with my incredible family, my soulful husband, dan, and those fascinating and unique human beings who are my children, kate and cece and jack, all of whom i love with every fiber of my being. i'm thankful to be blessed with a mind-blowingly scrappy team here in "the war room." they put in long hours and heart and soul to create this and thoughtful show for you, and i'm grateful for you, dear viewers who found us on this upstart network and have stuck with us as we continue to grow.
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>> obama: they say that life is all about second chances. [ laughter ] >> obama: and this november i
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could not agree more. [ laughter ] >> obama: so in the spirit of the season, i have one more gift to give, and it goes to a pair of turkeys named cobbler and gobbler. the winners of the white house turkey pardon were chosen through a highly competitive online vote, and once again, nate silver completely nailed it. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: so fitting that on a day where much of our focus has been on forgiveness and pardon that the president got into the act. of course that was over two turkeys camed cobbler and gobbler. every president has taken part in the pardon except for eisenhower and johnson who both ate the birds presented to them. finally tonight we'll give
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thanks in a different way. let's give thanks to brett ehrlich, and remember that laughter really is the best medicine. ♪ >> hey, friends before you head off to thanksgiving this weekend, and have a nice little dinner with your family, i thought you might want to grab a little cup of coffee warm your hands by the fire and take time to listen to what i'm thankful for this year. i'm thankful i made a mad dash to buy a million twinkies. i can sell them for a profit or have a delicious way to binge away the sadness. i'm glad that robert pattenson and christian stewart back proves that no matter how much infidelity you experience along the way, you
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can still stay together. yesterday mitt romney went to disneyland, and said this might be the happy us place on earth, but it doesn't even compare to planet culob. and i'm thankful that anderson cooper puts his twitter haters in his place. thanks anderson. i'll treat my haters the same way, as soon as anyone cares enough to hate me. happy thanksgiving. ♪ >> jennifer: all right. everybody thanks so much for joining us here in "the war room." have a great night. have a wonderful thanksgiving, and we here on monday. ♪
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The War Room With Jennifer Granholm
Current November 21, 2012 9:00pm-10:00pm PST

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TOPIC FREQUENCY Us 8, Jennifer 6, Detroit 5, Michigan 3, The City 2, Allstate 2, Haley Barbour 2, Young Turks 2, Dennis 2, Democrats 2, Heaven 2, Obama 2, Al Gore 1, You Bet 1, Toni Bunton 1, Johnson 1, Stephanie Miller 1, Granholm 1, Detroit City 1, Phil 1
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